The Bismarcks carried about nineteen thousand tons of armor, albeit in an archaic configuration by World War II standards. Yamato and Musashi (both of which have suffered significant damage to their upper works and secondary armaments) close to point blank range. The German squadron has a three-knot speed advantage, which it uses to try to pull away from the Japanese and avoid the engagement. Yamato uses a single thick deck (but not consistantly one thick plate in many places) versus the two deck system on Bismarck. The Germans open fire first, when it becomes apparent that they cannot escape the fight. Japan entered the Great War against the Central Powers as a coalition partner; if the coalition had broken up, Tokyo might still have found reason to quarrel with Berlin. Japan entered the Great War against the Central Powers as a coalition partner; if the coalition had broken up, Tokyo might still have found reason to quarrel with Berlin. The battle between the smaller ships also begins to go the Japanese way. Large and with effective subdivisions, neither German ship suffers lethal damage. Yamato's armor was thicker: (belt: 16.6" @ 20 degree incline, deck: 9.1", turret faces: 25.6", barbettes: 21.5" vs Bismarck 12.6" verticle belt, 4.7" deck, 14.1" turret faces, 13.4" barbettes). Before long, the Japanese begin to reply with their 18.1” guns. An eagle eyed Japanese sailor onboard Yamato sees a German officer strike the ships colors, and miraculously, the order goes out across the fleet to cease firing. Three German ships suffer hits, with a cruiser and a destroyer shearing out of line. With their speed advantage gone, the Germans find themselves in a slugging match with far larger, more heavily armored opponents. Before long, the Japanese begin to reply with their 18.1” guns. After a flurry of shellfire on both sides, the Japanese ships open up at range with their twenty-four-inch “Long Lance” torpedoes. Before long, the Japanese begin to reply with their 18.1” guns. Właśnie dlatego woleli pancerz niż zwrotność. The Yamatos, on the other hand, displaced about seventy-two thousand tons, armed with nine 18.1” guns in three triple turrets and capable of twenty-seven knots. This might be more about UK shells though, and perhaps less of an issue between Bismarck and Yamato, See 1 - if you can see your enemy and they cant, it allows a more favourable starting position, and a greater ability to fight in bad weather/poor visibility. Also higher quality radar allows for far more effective fire control. He serves as a senior lecturer at the Patterson School of Diplomacy and International Commerce at the University of Kentucky. Bismarck Secondaries VS Yamato : World of Warships | Wows Bismarck vs Wows Yamato —————————————————————————————————————————– Today we find out just how strong the bismarcks secondaries truely are in world of warships when we put them against the yamato in a straight up 1v1. We will assume for our purposes that Germany would construct ships akin to the Bismarck and Tirpitz, and then deploy them to the Far East (in a shorter Great War, Germany might well have retained the naval base at Tsingtao). Rather than fight with a collection of older battleships led by HIJMS Nagato, Admiral Lutjens decides to try his luck with the cream of the Imperial Japanese Navy. Share. At a perfect 45 degree angle, the Yamato's turret armor was … The SG is a 10cm or 3cm microwave set with a 360 degree sweep and PPI display. Robert Ballard found Bismarck in the Atlantic. Bismarck vs. Yamato (comparison) - YouTub . Although large and capable of absorbing enormous battle damage, Bismarck and Tirpitz simply did not compare favorably with any other navy’s fast battleships. Bismarck vs. Yamato. We will assume for our purposes that Germany would construct ships akin to the Bismarck and Tirpitz, and then deploy them to the Far East (in a shorter Great War, Germany might well have retained the naval base at Tsingtao). Increasingly accurate Japanese fire devastates the upper works of the German ships. The Bismarcks carried about nineteen thousand tons of armor, albeit in an archaic configuration by World War II standards. the Yamato would win 8-10 times a med or close fight on a level playing field but the Bismarck would win a long range fight because of its Superior accuracy and its … Three German ships suffer hits, with a cruiser and a destroyer shearing out of line. Image: Japanese battleship Yamato is hit by a bomb near her forward 460mm gun turret, during attacks by U.S. carrier planes as she transited the Sibuyan Sea. Difficult, but not impossible. Robert Farley, a frequent contributor to the National Interest, is author of The Battleship Book. Bismarck was faster,.. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. By contrast, the 18.1” hits begin to do serious damage immediately, plunging into the German ships at great range. The fifteen-inch guns of Bismarck and Tirpitz fire at a greater rate than the Japanese guns, but even when they hit, they do relatively little damage to the vitals of the Japanese ships (although they extensively scar the upper works). 3. The destroyers Yukikaze and Isokaze brave the secondary armament of the two German behemoths to close within torpedo distance, hitting both targets. At this point, the situation becomes academic. Yamato’s 18.1-inch guns were the largest ever mounted on a warship. The long-legged German battleships, designed for raiding, would take to Pacific service well. Yamato and Musashi, the largest and most powerfully built ships in history (although perhaps at some disadvantage relative to the American Iowas) utterly outclassed the German ships, and would have defeated them easily. Bismarck was a well built ship based on the WWI Baden class but would get stomped by Yamato. With Kido Butai (the Japanese carrier force) engaged elsewhere, the Imperial Japanese Navy assigns HIJMS Yamato and HIJMS Musashi (with a similarly constituted support group) the task of catching and destroying the German ships. The Wait is Over Here is the most Coolest Battle I've Ever Done Enjoy the video and Stay Awesome Still, both German battleships remain shockingly resistant to the damage inflicted by the IJN. Large and with effective subdivisions, neither German ship suffers lethal damage. He serves as a Senior Lecturer at the Patterson School of Diplomacy and International Commerce at the University of Kentucky. Forum rules. Difficult, but not impossible. Lutjens decides to attack before Japanese cruisers and destroyers can close into torpedo range; German intelligence is well-apprised of the capabilities of the Type 93 torpedo, designed to destroy and disable capital ships at a distance. Although officially taken into IJN service, Bismarck never returns to combat status; the expense and difficulty of refit prove too much for the Japanese. Rather than fight with a collection of older battleships led by HIJMS Nagato, Admiral Lutjens decides to try his luck with the cream of the Imperial Japanese Navy. Bismarck was commissioned in 1940, Yamato in late 1941. The Japanese advantages soon tell, and fire from both German ships becomes sporadic and inaccurate. Lutjens wants to engage before dark, when he knows that the Japanese will have a significant tactical advantage, despite German radar. Bismarck was actually lost 8 months before Yamato was commissioned, but this is a hypothetical question, so that's okay. The destroyers Yukikaze and Isokaze brave the secondary armament of the two German behemoths to close within torpedo distance, hitting both targets. We also assume that they represent the early stages of German fast battleship design, meaning that the more powerful ships will remain in the Atlantic. Robert Farley, a frequent contributor to TNI, is author of The Battleship Book. Neither is going to completely protect the ship from heavy hits at long range regardless of the paper figures usually cited. So let’s forget World of Warships and the lists of stats for a minute and take a glance at history. 24 October 1944. Szybkość była istotnym elementem jej projektu. Still, both German battleships remain shockingly resistant to the damage inflicted by the IJN. But the Yamato also had very suspect damage control discipline, but would probably been nearly immune to the Bismarck’s main guns. Most of her crew survives the war, however. The fifteen-inch guns of Bismarck and Tirpitz fire at a greater rate than the Japanese guns, but even when they hit, they do relatively little damage to the vitals of the Japanese ships (although they extensively scar the upper works). Yamato and Musashi (both of which have suffered significant damage to their upper works and secondary armaments) close to point blank range. Japanese gunfire slows the rest of the line, allowing several of the IJN’s support squadron to detach themselves and concentrate on the German battleships. He blogs at Lawyers, Guns and Money, Information Dissemination and the Diplomat. Yamato and Musashi, the largest and most powerfully built ships in history (although perhaps at some disadvantage relative to the American Iowas) utterly outclassed the German ships, and would have defeated them easily. The remaining Japanese cruisers and destroyers, having disposed of their German counterparts, open up with their own guns and fire their remaining torpedoes. The mythology that surrounds Bismarck stems largely from the destruction of just one ship. The German ships lose the capacity to meaningfully engage the Japanese, and are subjected to withering fire from the battleships. Bismarck was a fantastic-looking ship, although I think Yamato has a handsome look to her too, in a massive, awe-inspiring kinda way. The German ships lose the capacity to meaningfully engage the Japanese, and are subjected to withering fire from the battleships. With the assistance of the surrendered German crew, the Japanese manage to get the fires and flooding under control. The Bismarck class had eight fifteen-inch guns, each capable of hurling an armor piercing, capped round up to 21.75 miles. Two hours into the engagement, an explosion rocks Tirpitz; the crippled battleship soon capsizes and sinks. More importantly, the imperial ambitions of Kaiserine Germany are worth remembering. Bismarck block coefficient is calculated as follows: CB = 44,900 mt / (241.55 m x 36 m x 9.33 m) = 0.55 4) The midship section coefficient (CM) is the ratio of the area of the underwater midship section (Am) of a ship at a particular draft to the area of a rectangle (the circumscribing rectangle) of the same breadth and draught as the ship. Although officially taken into IJN service, Bismarck never returns to combat status; the expense and difficulty of refit prove too much for the Japanese. Two hours into the engagement, an explosion rocks Tirpitz; the crippled battleship soon capsizes and sinks. However, before long both Bismarck and Tirpitz begin to lose speed, cutting off any chance of escape. The German squadron has a three-knot speed advantage, which it uses to try to pull away from the Japanese and avoid the engagement. Before long, the Japanese begin to reply with their 18.1” guns. The Germans open fire first, when it becomes apparent that they cannot escape the fight. Her caliber was smaller-- 15in vs the Yamato's 18in shells, but the Yamato had known metallurgy problems in its armor. Yamato takes Bismarck under tow until tugs arrive. Apart from the Iowas and HMS Vanguard, the Bismarcks and the Yamatos were the two largest classes of battleships ever built. Both US and Japanese policy in the Pacific in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries (particularly the U.S. seizure of the Philippines) kept German regional ambitions firmly in mind. Yamato and her sister carried about twenty-two thousand tons of armor in modern (“all or nothing”) configuration. Robert Farley, The National Interest ... the German battleship Bismarck and the Japanese battleship Yamato, would come into conflict? Both the Germans and the Japanese have excellent fire control, but the contest is unequal. Bismarck opens fire on Yamato and Tirpitz on Musashi, with Bismarck scoring an early hit on the Japanese flagship. With their speed advantage gone, the Germans find themselves in a slugging match with far larger, more heavily armored opponents. Discussion in 'What If - Other' started by dasreich, Aug 16, 2002. Just as Japan chafed against the existence of the British and American empires in Asia, it could well have come into conflict with Berlin. Both US and Japanese policy in the Pacific in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries (particularly the U.S. seizure of the Philippines) kept German regional ambitions firmly in mind. Although large and capable of absorbing enormous battle damage, Bismarck and Tirpitz simply did not compare favorably with any other navy’s fast battleships. Battleship Shootout: KM Bismarck vs. USS Iowa vs. IJN Yamato vs. HMS King George V September 28, 2012 in General Topics The battleship , moreso than any kind of warship–excepting perhaps the man O’ war –was often the visual representation of a country’s military might. The long-legged German battleships, designed for raiding, would take to Pacific service well. The remaining Japanese cruisers and destroyers, having disposed of their German counterparts, open up with their own guns and fire their remaining torpedoes. Klasa Iowa została zbudowana, aby eskortować i współpracować z szybkimi przewoźnikami. Had the Battle of the Marne gone the other way, Germany might have forced France from the World War I in the early fall of 1914, just as it did in the spring of 1940. 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