Spar urethane will instead make a shiny hard surface and maintain the shine for long without getting affected. I’m planning to thin Epifanes with mineral spirits by 50% and wipe on 3 coats. I would like to protect the wood (and us from splinters) without changing the color, adding gloss or creating a hard plastic feel. I am not all that experienced in that area so my frame of reference is a bit off. Jamestown has a product called Circa 1850 Exterior varnish marine grade at $48.45 per gallon. 3. Hi Marc, Copyright © 2006-2020 The Wood Whisperer Inc. I would think that after you apply it is going to smooth out regardless. I have never heard of Epifanes, so i googled it, and found it at Amazon, but there is so much under just “epifanes” MY main question: “What EXACT product would I need to use on the fence?? But if you want a finish that won’t yellow, there aren’t many other options out there. Hi there, We are installing Ikea butcher block countertops in our (heavily used) kitchen. Or, maybe their “one step” stain and polyurethane? You know. So if any of your paints re-activate on contact with water, you may have a problem. No I haven’t and I’m not sure of the long term ramifications of something like that. I am refinishing an old church pew for use as seating on our deck. I would like to have something that is nice and hard with a little UV protection. A higher quality finish like Epifanes contains phenolic modified alkyd resins. Since DIY stopped showing “Wood Works”, I’m really going to be missing DJ Marks. I stripped it down again. Historical work had put waterproof wall materials on what are old tongue and groove walls. It is a kind of oil-based varnish that makes the objects glossy and protects them from external damage. It seems the varnish yellows more than the item it’s varnished on. Only use oxalic acid if you have discoloration to deal with. You have to let it dry completely between coats and fully cure for 7-9 days before using the surface so it is a hassle. I have a beautiful custom designed/painted bench which sits outdoors. While polyurethane is water- or oil-based plastic resin, varnish is older and made from resins, oils, and solvents. May I ask what you would recommend and why? That said, you should be able to scuff sand, clean, and then apply a spar varnish. The one recommended in this article should do nicely. unfortunately, I think you are going to have to wait quite a while for that. Hey Larry. For instance, using a small amount of oil and a large amount of resin will produce a very hard but somewhat brittle finish. Hey Travis. See pics http://www.oldhouseguy.com/my_restoration . Of course long-standing spills can always cause issues, but that’s the drawback of wood countertops. I seem to get a longer lasting application if I put a bit of stain in the spar varnish, as well as a bit of Penetrol. I stopped watching a long time ago because I had seen all the episodes so I totally understand. hi mark can i use the wipe on method using the epifanes? This site uses affiliate links. The Differences Between Shellac & Varnish. As a result, many of the high-end marine varnishes will be made with tung oil instead of linseed oil. Would it be beneficial to put a final coat of Spar Urethane on it? we are building a teardrop trailer and would like to have a stained wood finish for the side walls (the top will be covered with aluminum). A note on spar: Bob Flexner has stated several times that household spar varnishes typically have very little in the way of UV inhibitors. Even regular interior polyurethane has good water resistance so I would say just stick with one simple finish and call it done. Please help……. Give it a go and be sure to update us with the results! Norm had a new series on kitchen cabinets recently that has a lot of good stuff, otherwise his shows are also reruns As I live in France a European supplier would be best! Great site, by the way! Thank you! Advice on that process using the unfinished 1 x 4’s or is there a way to paint the pressure treated shutters sooner than a year? Mike. Epifanes is definitely protective enough, but you need to be sure you like the look. I also realize that I mistook “floor” and “door”, lol. But I think that’s more related to the fact that the material is more flexible. But keep in mind, no finish will withstand repeat exposure to moisture like that. It is known for being a very outstanding wood finishing varnish that was primitively developed for coating the sailing ship’s pole of wood. I originally used spar varnish on it in 2004. Now, when are you going to post video from your David Marks visit? I’m refinishing a park bench and want to use it on the oak slats. Thxxxx j9, Well if you don’t an amber hue, your options are fairly limited. There is so much conflicting information as to the best covering for the job. It seems that the only oil based non-poly is Man-O-War Spar varnish. Oh that’s an interesting thought. Any technique suggestions? Some of the differences are chemicals from the way that they are mixed. The plan is to varnish it and perhaps add a deep oak stain. Can i just apply a very thin coat of Marine Spar varnish over the door without lightly sanding down the old varnish? But they range in price from $12-$100. Thanks. I would like to remove the varnish without hurting the custom paint scene underneath as I am no where near talented enough to redo it. I honestly don’t use the stuff myself so can’t recommend anything too specific. If you already know you want a fairly thick finish, then you should consider using a brush. I am sure both Formby’s and Arm-R-Seal each have proprietary mixes of resins but to you and me, they are probably very similar in usage and appearance. We are new to being home owning and therefore DIY. Obviously, this is not suitable for outdoor applications since we need an outdoor finish to be flexible. Epoxy products can also be used, yet they may not offer the same flexibility of movement as the spar urethane has, which could mean it may crack if the wood moves. While both spar varnish and spar urethane are similar products with similar consistency, one difference that sets the two aside is the fact that spar urethane takes longer than a spar varnish to set. I would like to seal it with something that will not alter the color if possible. Oil-based wood finishes (varnish) and water-based wood finishes may seem the same, but there are significant differences between them. I’m planning to use Epifanes Clear Varnish to finish an outdoor bench made by Western Red Cedar. I have tried to coat it with a shellac sealer with three coats of sprayed lacquer over it. Hey Marc, does spar varnish provide any extra water-proofing over poly? Is this my best bet or do you have any recommendations? It does. This indoor furniture will be hit with dappled sunlight, hot summers and very little rain. Especially inhibitors that will be useful for a clearcoat application? Would you recommend to mix the stain in the spar varnish? Old-timers may advise against the use of polyurethane but that is just because they are resistant to change. I have also read about another spar varnish called Penofin…any advice will be much appreciated! These are materials I just don’t work with since most of my furniture is for interior use. Spar Marine Varnish vs Spar Urethane For Paddles, Canoes And Small Boats. I’m a complete newbie to wood finishing, but I do have a basic understanding of epoxy paints & clear coats for automotive body painting. Thank you so much for your great site. Folks, Is the product harmful. It also fisheyed. Required fields are marked *. Pro Tip: Spar marine varnish may require more coats than the spar urethane in order to gain the best results and durability levels, which can take longer, so patience may be needed. Do you concur with my plan or do you have other advice? One difference between this and spar marine varnish is that the spar urethane is a synthetic product and can be either oil based or water based. It’s beautiful and rough, with spaces between the pieces that can catch crumbs. Now a stripper isn’t a bad idea at all. Do you recommend Epifanes Clear Varnish? Hi, When choosing between varnish vs. polyurethane, it is important to weigh both their pros and cons. hmm… something I know nothing about. Some varnishes do include colour to enhance or alter the wood shade. I am constructing a wood fire sauna boat with a repurposed 25 foot tritoon. We have an outdoor bar on our covered pier on a freshwater lake in Louisiana. The abrasion method is quite nice because it also smooths the surface beautifully. Well just about anything that produces a film will be slick. None of the finishes have lasted very long (especially the water based.) We do not use spar varnish on furniture. I researched Epifane products and saw that have a wood finish in matte, but I’m not sure if that’s something I can use on table by itself without first applying glossy uncoats. :). Just like with the spar varnish, you should apply the urethane in a clean and dust-free environment and ensure that you clean and smooth down your boat first. Hi Marc- Very helpful info. Now if you should be able to get all the varnish off without damaging the paint, you’re best bet is to get away from oil-based finishes all together. I’m building a redwood deck in beautiful dry Utah….we are about 4500 feet elevation so we have standing snow in winter. Any suggestions on how to prevent this? Epifanes: http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ.....MOKFZYIR6T, Great! Not too worried about the uv anymore (decided it would be interior only) but I could also put an exterior poly on if need be. Not sure just how well a polyurethane varnish would adhere to those various materials. I would probably go for what I like to call the “bulletproof” finish. My wife suggested spar varnish but in talking to someone from the lumber yard…he suggested the spar varnish would crack, flake, yellow and be hard to refinish. A coat or two of this stuff, without sanding, should give you a pretty textured surface too. I’ve heard cedar turns grey over time, what can we do to prevent this if we like the red color the wood already has? Hey I am building a walnut and maple tray and tested out some spar varathane since it will be out in the sun sometimes and will have sweating drinks. There are also some other differences between shellac and varnish that will be talked about in this article. Spar Varnish Spar varnish is made with a base of natural oil such as tung, linseed or soya. Could you give a recommendation on one or two good epoxy coatings? I know this is outside your wheelhouse but wondered if you’ve even heard of anything related? Mark. We’ve recently built a kitchen bar counter out of old, weathered pallet wood. I’m guessing you might want a more industrial style finish, ideally. If she were prepping food on the surface, I would have given different advice. Hi, I’m hoping for some guidance please? I put one coat of primer over it before painting the scenes with Sherwin Williams’ exterior latex paint (can’t remember the name of it but it’s very thick). I’m looking for some advice on the right finish to use on our newly built outdoor dining table. Stopped showing Woodworks?!?!? You can add some oil-based stain if you like. Unfortunately, I don’t. And the name “spar varnish” comes from the boating world, where the long wooden poles that support the sails are know as spars. Good Morning, I am just looking for a tint of color without losing the transparency. Hi, I have a dining room table with a bird’s eye maple veneer finish covered by epoxy. But many believe that tung oil is actually better for outdoor use. I used the spar urethane and it turned an amber look. Spar varnish gets its name from the wooden poles that support the sails on a marine vessel. A pre-coat of CPES (Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealer) followed by as many coats as you want of Epifanes. I’m working on a door with full sun exposure. There should be no compatibility issues at this stage. This is very apparent when we extend the table and take out the extender leaves which still have the original color. But now I’m worried that the Spar will yellow and that it won’t be safe for a food surface (I won’t be cutting on it, but still). 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