Their speed needs to be severely reduced. Extra speed (+1) As british I've had pretty good success with longbows and some musk/hussar up front. Caroleans will kill muskets in melee but not fast enough to prevent grens tearing them to pieces. Many of the cavalrymen, known as gusars in Serbian… But their seeming invincibility couldn’t last forever. Forum Posts. The Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth army under Chodkiewicz was composed of roughly 1,000 infantry and 2,600 cavalry[1]:64 and only five cannons. [1]:65 At the same time, on the Swedish left, 650 hussars under Jan Piotr Sapieha charged. It is reasonable to expect a legion to be around 4000 to 6000 throughout history, so OP did some homework, well done! In general, the idea with infantry warfare at the time was to force the other side to retreat, usually by breaking the coherency of the line. [1]:64 Chodkiewicz, having smaller forces (approximately a 1:3 disadvantage), used a feint to lure the Swedes off their high position, pretending to withdraw. 1. Formation I (+33% vs Mounted units) And Winged Hussars have these as well: Shock I (+15% strength in open terrain) Knockback units if they recieve more damage than the unit does; Probably the worst feature of Winged Hussars is that they upgrade to the Anti-Tank Gun, a niche late-game unit with only 2 moves. You'll still need two units though, I don't think their is a straight 1v1 counter unit to caroleans. vs. Polish Winged Hussar: Elite Polish cavalry warriors who were undefeated in battle for 100 years. When war broke out 1700, the army raised 67 000 well-drilled men in two weeks, men who accomplished feats such as Narva, 1700, Klissow, 1702 (where the Swedish cavalry shattered the famous Polish winged Hussars of the Polish Crown Army) and my personal favourite, the outmanouvering of the Russian Army at Grodno, 1706. Any formation of heavy cavalry is likely to beat any formation of classical infantry without much trouble, and that goes double for cavalry of the Renaissance or later. While popular notions tend to pinpoint the origins of hussars in Hungary, according to historian Richard Brzezinski, the history of hussars possibly harks back to the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) times, circa 10th century, when the Empire recruited light cavalry from the Balkans (especially the Serbs), known as the chonsarioi (possibly derived from cursores, the Roman light cavalry). This is a platform to discuss everything Age of Empires 3. Caroleans doing Gods work as far as I’m concerned. You could even build outposts on the mine to facilitate this. Followers. how do you counter caroleans as france ? [1]:65 The Polish–Lithuanian forces had a small number of Polish cossack light cavalry and Lithuanian tatars light cavalry (cossack and tatar cavalry is a class of light cavalry in Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth at this date not to be confused with the Ukrainian/Russian Cossacks or Tatars), used mostly for reconnaissance. They can't win against the skirms in ranged and without speed boost you can kite them. Please be respectful to your host and other participants. Be prepared to stay in Age 2. Unique unit of the Polish civilization. Enjoy! As in all crushing victories in this period, the larger part of the Swedish losses were suffered during the retreat, made more difficult by the dense forests and marshes on the route back to Riga, many drowning crossing the Dvina. Penalty Attacking Cities (33) 1.3. [1]:64 The Swedes under Charles thought that the Polish-Lithuanians troops were retreating and therefore advanced to the bottom of the slope, using his second line of cavalry to cover his flanks while the first line of infantry closed up. No Defensive Terrain Bonuses 2. If the Swede tries to age, go in for the kill or age yourself for veteran upgrades and cannon. Now Adolphus when he fought the Polish he would simply avoid them, and attempt to lure them against his infantry and artillery armed with guns. So they're OP af. During the hussar's charges it was the horses that took the greatest damage, the riders being largely protected by the body and heads of their horses. Special abilities: 2.1. Watch the game on ESOCTV youtube channel: France vs Sweden. There is a bit of a strategy you can utilize though since they do upgrade into anti-tanks: save their construction and beeline to Brandenburg and the Military Academy. The Polish Crown declined to raise funds for defence, although Great Hetman of Lithuania Jan Karol Chodkiewicz promised to pay out army wages from his own fortune, thereby gathering at least some army from Lithuania. Winged Hussars needed the armour protection in order to complete their charge, the wings were there to inspire fear into the enemy and the Mongols used a vast array of horses and tactics akin to charging nimble horse archers, then feigning a retreat to lure the enemy into a trap where they'd be out of position and easily butchered. Can Move After Attacking 1.3. Extra Sight (1) 2.2. A 400-strong Hussar unit was being attacked on two fronts by the 25,000+ Crimean Khanate forces and they were backed into the tiny village of Hodow. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. [citation needed], The Swedish forces seem to have been deployed in a checkerboard formation, made up of the infantry regiments formed into seven or eight well-spaced independent blocks, with intersecting fields of fire. Requires Horses. We then decided we rather liked Lancers, so at the time many LD regiments were renamed and equipped as Hussars, so some became Lancers. Heavy Charge:Forces defender to retreat if it inflicts more damage than it receives. I'll micro my LB to be spread apart so they're not all bunched in a small group that can be surrounded easily. A defender who cannot retreat takes extra damage. Press J to jump to the feed. The Hussars were adopted in the 16th Century and acted as light cavalry who carried the war-banners. the Polish Winged Hussars. If you get melee cav + skirms. I just want examples of how they've acted in battle. Winged Hussars. Exiled Serbian warriors introduced hussar horsemen – light cavalry armed with hollowed lance, Balkan-type shield, and sabre – in Hungary following the Ottoman conquest of Serbiain the late 15th century. You gotta kite them if they decide to go melee, having something like musketeers to tank or charging cav in the rear can melt them. The battle ended in the decisive victory of the Polish–Lithuanian forces, and is remembered as one of the greatest triumphs of Commonwealth cavalry. Go for a timing push to deny Sweden's third mine. I'll be a bit controversial and go for a Lancer replacement, the Winged Hussar. 1. Replaces the Lancer. (A group of hussars charge head on towards an army of Crimean Tatars with their lances and firearms at the ready, plowing through the line and cutting down any stragglers.) Without pay they could not buy food or fodder for their horses or replenish their military supplies, and so the campaign faltered. Doppels and janissaries can go toe to toe I think. Meanwhile Sweden had 9 torps and was aging up to age 3 while ending the game with a Carolean attack. The man falling to the ground and rolling in pain momentarily before dying. You don't need skirms, their range is useless here. Extra movement (1) johnny_rudeboy, Aug 27, 2015 #2. They're heavy infantry so skirms tear them. [3] The battle ended in the decisive victory of the Polish–Lithuanian forces, and is remembered as one of the greatest triumphs of Commonwealth cavalry. That way you could upgrade them into super tanks. Nothing will counter them. Either way I think the biggest issue now with sweden is their economy. From the winged Hussars who salvaged the glory of Vienna in 1529 to the stateless patriots of Napoleon’s Polish Legions, they remained the core of the Polish Army well into the first quarter of the 20th Century, attracting the cream of society to produce a highly educated and motivated fighting elite. No Defensive Terrain Bonuses 2. At the dawn of the 18th Century, these were aggressive, revolutionary tactics. Dedication Dedication They’re outnumbered 15 to one And the battle´s begun. Joined: Apr 28, 2015 Messages: 138. Admittedly I've only played AI, but from what I know, Voltigeurs will do a number on them, and if you send forward a melee (hussars, Gendarmes) to screen for them, you should have no trouble. I have done age 2 push, semi cav or musk ff, age 2 musk spam. So keep cav behind the skirms. The battle was decided in 20 minutes by the devastating charge of Polish–Lithuanian cavalry, the Winged Hussars. [1]:66 The Polish-Lithuanian infantry, mostly armed in Hungarian haiduk-style, drew up in the centre. Byzantine Kataphraktoi vs. Polish Winged Hussar: Warrior Introduction and grading system My next match up will feature two of the most famous heavily armored calvary units to have ever existed. However, the Commonwealth proved unable to exploit the victory fully because there was no money for the troops, who had not been paid for months. The Hussars had only a single night to turn the town into a fortress, to … Formation Ipromotion 1.2. Grenadiers are powerful against all kinds of infantry, even more so with the grenade launcher tech. The Polish hussars (/ h ə ˈ z ɑːr /, / h ə ˈ s ɑːr /, or / h ʊ ˈ z ɑːr /; Polish: Husaria), or Winged hussars, were one of the main types of Polish cavalry in Poland and in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth between the 16th and 18th centuries.. Modelled on the Hungarian hussars, the early hussars were light cavalry of exiled Balkan warriors who were sent to Poland as mercenaries. 0. Possibly worth going for some early colonial pressure with bows / pikes to prevent them getting too greedy with torps. Both of these warriors have storied histories, and both were considered the elites of their respective countries. Wiki Points. It didn't work well against formations with lots of arquebusiers, or units which were more willing to aggressively maneuver. Requires Horses. Skirms with counter infantry rifling do pretty well against them, particularly if you mix in some cuirs as caroleans aren't so great against cav in melee. One game I had 35 musk vs 25 and lost with 22 caroleans still alive.. You lose map control as all the mines have houses on them, you go to kill them and then just put them in hand combat and run across the map and kill you. That what I have been trying but they just kill any musk and hus I have in the way get then the skim just get killed. Next the fashion for Hussars arrived from the Continent (thanks to the romantic success of the French troops so named) and in (about) 1806 the 10th Light Dragoons became the first British Hussar regiment. They feel so broken to play against and cover a huge skill difference. Richard Brzezinski, Velimir Vukšić, "Polish Winged Hussar 1576–1775", Osprey Publishing, 2006, pg. Have you tried with the most recent change to their charge mechanic? The battle was decided in 20 minutes by the devastating charge of Polish–Lithuanian cavalry, the Winged Hussars. THeSquirrelKing Tyrranical Rodent. Play a containment strategy, keep massing up and mix in hussar to deal with a leather cannon switch. Page 3 of 3 < Prev 1 2 3. They counter skirms in melee, and beat everything else in ranged. [1]:65, The main battle started with the Polish–Lithuanian cavalry charge on the Swedish right flank, with about 1,000 hussars shattering Mansfield's reiters, and disordering the Swedish third line of infantry in their retreat. The Winged Hussars were one of the most effective military forces in the world. Now they have to choose between charging all their caroleans or only switching some to melee but not getting a speed boost. 3. And of course they beat regular Musks in melee. They also tear through Crossbowmen. The Hussars of Poland origin… Enhance Flank Attack: Flank attack bonus increased by 50%(10% to 15%) 1. The riders later took on the role of heavy infantry men who sported specialized armor and lances. Its not even close. Unique unit of the Austrian civilization. The Polish Winged Hussars. It is a rapid-firing Musketeer which moves faster and has a stronger attack while in Melee Mode. Caroleans is another favorite but I actually think I like the Minutemen better. Into battle facing the fire, Lord thy will be done Into battle walk in a line The word hussar derives from the Serbian Gusar and later Hungarian Huszár. This should make them easier to deal with. However, the Polish–Lithuanian forces were well-rested and their cavalry consisted mostly of superbly trained Winged Hussars or heavy cavalry armed with lances, while the Swedish cavalry were less-well trained, armed with pistols and carbines, on poorer horses, and tired after a long night's march over 10 km in torrential rain. Can Move After Attacking 1.2. They then capped this feat on arrival when, by dint of audacious demonstrations by the 500 men of the combined 5th and 7th Hussars, the 6,000-strong Prussian garrison was bluffed into capitulating its fortress at Stettin along with 160 cannon. 1. Common abilities: 1.1. An additional factor was the large number of trained horses lost during the battle, which proved difficult to replace. "The Real Battle of Vienna", by Dag Herbjørnsrud, Aeon, 24 July 2018. The flanks were to be covered by the Swedish and German cavalry and the cannons were placed in front of the cavalry. In the ensuing chaos, the Hessians only had one more shot to get off before things come to melee combat and they managed to fire off a second volley that drops another Swedes with a gut shot. After the defeat, the Swedish king was forced to abandon the siege of Riga and withdraw by ship back across the Baltic Sea to Sweden and to relinquish control of northern Latvia and Estonia. Content is available under CC BY-SA 3.0 unless otherwise noted. Extra strength (28 vs. 25) 3.2. Last edited on 31 December 2020, at 00:09. Special abilities: 2.1. The Commonwealth forces now gave fire with Kettlers' Courland harquebusiers while Wincenty Wojna's hussars charged at the Swedish lines, causing disorder in the infantry. Nope. Not Winged Hussars vs Grid Bot commands: All members should register first using !register command and then in the bot's DM type the following command !createteam - Create a new team !jointeam - Join an existing team. [1]:64 The infantry battalions formed in squares of thirty by thirty, with pikemen in the center and shot on the edges, and gaps between the squares allowed passage of their cavalry.[1]:64. A cry for help in time of need, await relief from holy league 60 days of siege, outnumbered and weak Sent a message to the sky, wounded soldiers left to die Will they hold the wall or will the city fall. The Winged Hussar was the main type of cavalry used in the Polish army. Play a containment strategy, keep massing up and mix in hussar to deal with a leather cannon switch. Welcome to /r/AOE3. [1]:65 This is what Chodkiewicz was waiting for. Your best bet is to mix in a batch of of grenadiers with your muskets. The unit is way too strong. The Swedish army included two western commanders, Frederick of Lüneburg and Count Joachim Frederick of Mansfeld,[1]:64 with a few thousand German and Dutch mercenaries and even a few hundred Scots. The riders later took on the role of heavy infantry men who sported specialized armor and lances. It kinds sucks they designed sweden that way, but caroleans kind of have to be this versatile to compensate for their lack of skirms I guess. The Battle of Kircholm is commemorated on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, Warsaw, with the inscription "KIRCHOLM 27 IX 1605". 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Caroleans will kill muskets in melee but not fast enough to prevent grens tearing them to pieces. The forces of Charles IX of Sweden were numerically superior and were composed of 10,868 men[1]:64 and 11 cannons. The size and unit composition varies depending on when this Roman legion was operating. Counter- intuitively, a unit like a Carib blowgunner is tankier in melee Vs Caroleans than a musketeer, and they do a lot more damage. They just stick them in hand combat and your army is gone. The entire force of Swedish cavalry was finally put to rout, and in their flight disordered many of their own infantry, leaving them vulnerable to the hussars' charge.[1]:65. Follow 2795. Oh and throw some Falconets behind your infantry to help out. Lots of skirmishers with enough artillery behind them to make charging your skirmishers suicide. I suppose the only way to kill them is using skirms/cannons in a choke point or behind a wall. I been watching the recorded games and I have way more units in all the fights and I hardly even kill a single unit . Caroleans are essentially musketeers that can turn into shock infantry (but obviously, anti-shock infantry multipliers don't work against them). Some 280 hussars were left as a general reserve under Teodor Lacki. Svea Livgardes Historia, bd. If you have any questions, comments or concerns feel free to contact the moderators. Discussion in 'The War Room' started by MarissaLH2112, Oct 15, 2011. Jan Karol Chodkiewicz deployed his forces in the traditional deep Polish battle formation – the so-called "Old Polish Order" – with the left wing significantly stronger and commanded by Tomasz Dąbrowa, while the right wing was composed of a smaller number of hussars under Jan Piotr Sapieha and the centre, which included Hetman Chodkiewicz's own company of 300 hussars led by lieutenant Wincenty Woyna and a powerful formation of reiters sent by the Duke of Courland Friedrich Kettler. The Caroleans used them on the attack because sometimes a bayonet simply wasn't long enough. Common abilities: 1.1. Taking orders from the heavens Through hostile fire they will march Unaffected by the volleys Facing death their faith will keep their fear at bay. The Hussars were adopted in the 16th Century and acted as light cavalry who carried the war-banners. You could even build outposts on the mine to facilitate this. Put heavy hand infantry in front of skirms/crossbows/longbows. Within 30 minutes, the Swedish cavalry was in full retreat on both flanks exposing the infantry in the center to the hussars and the firepower of Chodkiewicz's infantry. Hessians: 4 - Swedish Caroleans: 3 0. Good they’re killing you before you spam Gendarmes. Chodkiewicz tried for four hours to lure the Swedes from their positions with his light cavalry sent out to skirmish between the two armies. On 27 September 1605, the Commonwealth and Swedish forces met near the small town of Kircholm (now Salaspils in Latvia, some 18 km south east of Riga). You may be able to get some useful natives to support your mass. Caroleans beat Skirmishers in melee. They fought like Knights with heavy lances, and would usually trump Cuirasseers. Replaces the Cavalry. [1]:65 After Charles sent in his reserve of 700 cavalry, Chodkiewicz sent in his reserves. Landsknechts vs. Penalty Attacking Cities (33) 1.4. Today, they are still remembered for their outstanding courage as well as their remarkable armor and clever military tactics. Rules. As Germany you have mi musk so you are dead against them anyways. [1]:65 The Swedish defeat was utter and complete. The winged horsemen or the hussars were a uniquely Polish kind of cavalry sometimes called ‘one of the world’s most efficient units’ due to their spectacular victories. If they engage in melee mode swoop in with hand cavalry if you have any. Special traits: 3.1. Special traits: 1.1. The Polish–Lithuanian losses numbered only about 100 dead[1]:65 and 200 wounded, although the hussars, in particular, lost a large part of their trained battle horses. [1]:65 The army of Charles IX had lost at least half, perhaps as much as two-thirds, of its original strength. You just have to have other units screen for them otherwise they'll get murdered in hand to hand fighting. Coordinates: .mw-parser-output .geo-default,.mw-parser-output .geo-dms,.mw-parser-output .geo-dec{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .geo-nondefault,.mw-parser-output .geo-multi-punct{display:none}.mw-parser-output .longitude,.mw-parser-output .latitude{white-space:nowrap}56°50′55″N 24°20′53″E / 56.84861°N 24.34806°E / 56.84861; 24.34806. Reviews: 0. Bertil C:son Barkman, Kungl. II: 1560–1611. [1]:65 The Lithuanians and Poles spared few. Then the winged hussars arrived Bimblecrumbs Warlord. The Winged Hussars would benefit very greatly from being part of the Knight line. Winged Hussars, Radoslaw Sikora, Bartosz Musialowicz, BUM Magazine, 2016. Thanks to their unparalleled skills, carefully-designed lances and unique tactics they won against most opponents, even when heavily outnumbered. No reason a musket should be able to sprint past their counters (cannons, skirms) and run into your base to raid. Shock Ipromotion 2.2. The Battle of Kircholm (27 September 1605, or 17 September in the Old Style calendar then in use in Protestant countries) was one of the major battles in the Polish–Swedish War. Far beyond their nations' borders There's an army on the march For religion, king and glory In the name of Christ their enemies chastise. Once they get more range than musks and ranged resist its even worse. When the winged hussars arrived. There's so much that soldiers can theoretically do. The Winged Hussar was the main type of cavalry used in the Polish army. Hessians: 4 - Swedish Caroleans: 4. Charles' force was formed into four lines on the crest of a ride, with the first line consisting of four infantry battalions, cavalry in the second line, six infantry battalions in the third line and cavalry in the fourth line. Winged Hussar vs Samurai deactivated-5b2dd32201ad6. France had 2 rax production in Age 2 and got destroyed. User Lists: 0 #1 deactivated-5b2dd32201ad6. Victor Pettersson (1939). 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